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Topic Discussion IV
Achieving Good Governance
Controlling Corruption, Improving
Administration
and Strengthening the Rule of Law
Room 1
(18 of 22 pages)
I know of about five Ministers who had been removed from office because TRAD find
them not guilty of some corruption and so they have been removed from offices. It's not correct that a Minister
who has been to TRAD and he has been removed from office, is going around with the president. It's never correct
and I don't think the president will ever in his wisdom will do such a thing.
The Serious Fraud Office in Guyana is working and the only thing that happens is that when they don't find anything
wrong with a particular Minister or somebody, you can't deal with it. But when there is something that goes --
that is very -- there is an injustice, then the Serious Fraud Office can deal with it.
So Guyana as a nation, yes, we have our ups and downs and corruption is everywhere, but I bet you we are doing
all that we can, you know, to put it into order. Thank you.
Chair: Thank you. The session is always pleased to give equal time to the party in Guyana and it sounds
as if the presidential campaign has begun in this room. The delegate from Macedonia.
Naser Ziberi: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ladies and gentleman, my name is Naser Ziberi, a Member of Parliament
from Macedonia. Because my English is bad, I do like to continue to speak in my language and this gentleman will
translate it.
Today we all agreed that corruption is something that is happening in all countries with emerging democracies.
In Macedonia we tried to distinguish the corruption in the political service and in the other institutions like
jurisdictional and other administrative institutions in our country. The corruption in the jurisdictional system
and especially in the health system of Macedonia, it's much older than the corruption in our political level, you
know, the government.
Of course, why the corruption has appeared, there are different causes, there are different conditions, but most
popular are poorness and the economy crisis, the deficiency of the role of the law, the absence of transparency
on the public works and the fact of the politics in the judicial system and with the judges.
What we think, the measures that we think to take so we can eliminate the corruptions, is of course permanent or
continuing emerging of democracy and political reforms. Also there is some measures that we need to take for regulating
the transparency of the political work. Also there should be a law against corruption, an anti-corruption law,
which is one of the conditions that was given to us from the European community, so we can work together on this
issue. Also we need a regulation of the role of law against the corruption of the institution of jurisdiction and
also we need to ensure independence of work in the organs of jurisdiction and the judges.
There is a regulation in Macedonia that deals with relations between the corruption within the government and the
corruption. If the State doesn't put obstacles and doesn't eliminate the corruption of who is in corruption, the
Mafia will eliminate the government. Thank you.
Chair: Thank you for sharing those experiences from Macedonia. Well, I'm looking at my watch here. We have
22 minutes left, so I'd like to have a show of hands of who is remaining here, in order to divide that time up
democratically. So if you could raise your hands? Who would like to speak? We've got one, two, three, four, five.
Okay, we have five, so three minutes a piece.
Speaker: Mine is just a question.
Chair: Okay, let's talk about the panelists here.
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