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Topic Discussion IV
Achieving Good Governance
Controlling Corruption, Improving
Administration
and Strengthening the Rule of Law
Room 5
(10 of 18 pages)
However, there is a specificity in privatization. If there are only 10 who run
the public sector, we should transform the public sector into expansion of the base of property through the middle
class so they will not be corrupt as shareholders so we need to solve the problem of privatization, to keep it
away from corruption. We need to transform it and to have counter struggle against corruption by the expansion
of the base of ownership and shareholding.
I have one more point concerning corruption and its sources. The civil servants. The civil servant as a person.
I am not going to speak about the ministers. I am going to speak about the Ministry of Foreign Affairs although
some people consider this Ministry as something sacred, we cannot touch it. I will speak about my Ministry. I am
going to speak about more than 1,360 civil servants in the Ministry in the diplomatic accords. We have a special
situation. On the eve of unification, all the civil servants in the external relations of the political parties
moved to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Young people and people working in women's associations and also the
association for Asian solidarity, for African solidarity, whatever, all those people who were working with such
institutions moved to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs so we started to have a very strange administration and now
we have 34 people who on the eve had some diplomatic title. Some of theme have been nominated counselors, ambassadors,
consultants, whatever. However, none of them had the minimum competence to be qualified as such.
As for the number of civil servants at present, in order to show the face of corruption that we have inherited
and we may consecrate it if we remain silent and don't say anything about it. That 34 civil servants exists also
in the other Ministries but the problem with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs cannot do anything because the other
Ministries can distribute them to other Ministries. I cannot do this in my Ministry because I have for instance
one single Embassy in the U.S., one in Cairo, one in London. I need to take only one Embassy. I got the one that
was in the north or the one that was in the south but the others are still in the Ministry. This is one type of
problem we are facing. However, we have 430,000 civil servants working in the government. We need to solve that
problem by redistributing them over the other institutions because we cannot have so many. We need to serve 18,000,000
people. However, misdistribution led to corruption. Thank you for your attention.
Madam Speaker: Thank you, Minister. You have touched on a number of very important issues.
I am going to assert the privilege of the Chair and establish my own role of law here. We have 12 speakers. I hope
I have identified everyone who has asked to speak and we have about 13 and we have about 60 minutes so I am going
to have to be a bit authoritarian and will ask each speaker to confine himself or herself to 3 minutes please so
that everyone can have a chance to talk if you would be so kind as to be very concise because we do have to leave
here promptly.
I would like to start with the gentleman there who raised his hand hours ago.
Please identify yourself and what country you are from and it has just been suggested to me and I think it is a
very good idea, I would like to hear from as many countries as possible so if there are various people from one
country who want to speak, perhaps one person could speak on behalf of those other individuals and if we have extra
time we can be a bit more flexible.
Salem Mat Salem (ph): I am an MP from Yemen. I would like to say first that the achievement of good governance
stems of pluralism as well as peaceful deliberations in power. I am going to summarize my talk to specific points
that is in favor of the restoration of good power. The most important thing is to find good government, local government
and to give the competence to its own administration divisions so that each division can run its own affairs and
reduce strong centralization and among the important points we are suffering from in terms of government is the
politicization of the public function as well as the increasing number of function. This is due to some party loyalties.
This generates the increasing number of civil servants and as a result of this we have corruption. The more we
avoid politicization of the civil function, the political party, the ruling party, we can have good governance.
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