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Topic Discussion III
Participation in
Democratic Decision-Making:
The Vital Voices of Women, Civil Society and
Pluralism
Room 1
(8 of 16 pages)
Mr. Nierli: The debate on NGOs is very modern but I fear that it became
a big tree who is hiding the forest because everywhere, and in Morocco, we give more value to the civil society,
the role of NGOs. So sometimes we give them more importance than they have in reality. The NGOs and the civil society
are very important of course. If we have a construction in society there are the school of citizenship. And it's
the real introduction of the participation of citizens and without them there is no democracy of course. But I
fear that we are going from an extreme to another and we are considering that they are too important and will give
them more value. But the crisis is real. If we can't think that the civil society can replace the parties, and
it's a debate who is in Morocco. We have a process of democracy. We have began it since ten years ago. And of course
we are just on the path and we have the impression now that there is a difficulty of communication. There is a
lack of communication between civil society and political society. And so I wanted to attract your attention and
you have, I want you to have a vision. You know the national and the political parties are the important factors,
and their role is [inaudible]. And of course if they have the ideal of democracy, and we have to clarify this.
And to say what is the role of the social parties and the civil society and the NGOs? Thank you.
Frank Loy: Sejfedin Haruni.
Sejfedin Haruni: I greet everybody. I am very happy to be a participant in this emerging democracy. And
I'm so happy that I can see that there is participants from all over the world. I am the legal commission for inter
ethnical questions in Macedonia. I am also for three times chosen for MP in the Parliament of Macedonia. I am the
member of party democratic prosperity. My ethic background is Albanian, from Macedonia. And I would like to just
briefly say a few words.
I heard yesterday and today a lot of discussion from a lot of participants here. And I can say that almost everybody
who has been talking here, has been longer history than geography we had on this talking.
But I'm also very glad that everybody is trying to give a concrete semblance to democracy. I see the field of democracy
as a place where the politicians also continues to take part. From the country that I come, also it is a multi
ethnical place, the people usually understand democracy as their own [inaudible]. Which makes a lot of problems
because democracy should be a ownership of a lot of people, the majority of the people who live in the country.
Of course when private things happen in democracy, we cannot talk anymore for democracy but something else that
has to do nothing with democracy.
I am very concerned that democracy is very slowly. But I think that all parties should try to help democracy, not
to stay in the place, not to have the progress. I'm sure that all the participants that are here from over all
the medians of the world, we could try to make ourselves a better living environment. I would only have to say
that we should train more, and have more conditions for democracy. This is the way that we will have smaller gap
between our NGO groups. Once again, thank you.
Frank Loy: Thank you, Mr. Haruni. It's interesting that you are the parliamentary chair of an inter ethnic
group and that if I read my program correctly, the Macedonian delegation consists of about two persons of Albanian
ethnic background and two of Slavic background. I think that's a very positive development and I thank you for
your contribution. Let me indicate the persons I have on my list and then we'll proceed. First I have Mr. Zamreg
(ph) from Morocco and then I have Miss Al-Sheri of Yemen. Wrong sign. Rhana Ganun (ph), sorry. And then I have
Ms. Gogoberidze and then this gentleman in the back row there, and then I have Mr. Gonay (ph) and then I have Mr.
Alkader (ph). Okay we'll stop there for the moment, and then we'll go on. Okay. Let us proceed with Mr. Zamreg
(ph).
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